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Initial Report

Vargo Triad Titanium Stove


Date: October 16th, 2004

Reviewer Information

Name: Jim Sabiston
Age: 50
Height: 6’ 3” (1.9 m)
Weight: 207 lb (94 kg)
Width at shoulders: 21” (53 cm)
Email address: JimSabis(at)aol(dot)com
State: New York
Country: USA

Backpacking Background:

I’ve been camping since my teens. My outdoor activities include backpacking, canoeing, sea kayaking, snowshoeing, mountaineering and cross country skiing. I have expanded my backpacking to include winter mountaineering, back country skiing and ski backpacking. I have received winter mountaineering training with Chauvin International Climbing Guides. I actively study ways to backpack lighter and more efficiently. During the summer months, my style tends toward very light, but not quite ultralight. I use a hammock or tarp for warm weather, and a small four season tent for winter trips. Most of my other gear is very changeable, as I am constantly experimenting with gear and techniques.

Product Information:

Manufacturer: Vargo Outdoors, LLC
Year of Manufacture: 2004
URL: www.vargooutdoors.com

Manufacturers Specifications:

- Diameter (burner): 2.36 in (60mm)
- Diameter (opened): 3.35 in (85 mm)
- Height (collapsed): 1 in (2.5 cm)
- Weight: 1 oz ( 28 g)
- Fuel: Denatured Alcohol
- Fuel Capacity: 1.75 oz (52 ml)
MSRP : $29.99 US

Stove Specifications as measured:
- Diameter (burner): 2.36 in (60mm)
- Diameter (opened): 3.7 in (94 mm) note: This is true diameter as extrapolated across the stove body. Measuring ‘point to point’ across the leg rips give a dimension approximating 85mm.
- Height (collapsed): 1 in (2.5 cm)
- Weight: 1.16 oz (33 g)
- Fuel Capacity: 1.75 oz (52ml)

The Vargo Triad Titanium Stove:

The stove arrived in one of those small boxes that I would swear is empty, until I opened it. The Vargo Triad Titanium Stove was inside buried under packing paper and attached to a simple cardboard hang tag. The stove was attached to the hang tag by its own legs, which were inserted through three holes in the hangtag and then folded to hold the stove on the cardboard tag.

The back of the hang tag gives general information and instructions for the stove.

The Triad Stove consists of a grey, titanium, disc shaped body, which itself is comprised of an upper and lower section which appear to have been pressed together, with the upper half fitting over the lower half. The upper section has a ring of 28 very small holes just inside the radiused outer edge. The center of the upper body is occupied by a concave depression. There is a small hole, approximately 1/8 in (3 mm) in diameter, with a series of eight very small holes surrounding the center holes. Peering inside the stove, I can just barely see a filler material of some sort. The web site data refers to this as being cotton.

One of the most obvious and notable features of the Triad Stove are the folding legs. There are three leg assemblies, each of which consists of a top and bottom leg. Each leg is held to its mount with a rivet which doubles as a pivot so the leg can be opened or folded against the stove body. The leg assemblies are spot welded to the stove body. The design is such that the legs fold flat against the top and bottom of the stove body, making for a very compact package. When fully opened, the legs splay outwards until they rest against their mounts, making for a very stable design.

 

Fig.1: The Vargo Triad Stove

Fig. 1: The Vargo Triad Stove opened and ready to go.

Overall fit and finish are good, but the stove appears to be mass produced. However, it has faults which are indicative of casual hand construction and it shows in the detailing, or lack of it. Some of the spot welds have rough edges and there is even a small 'welding burr' on one of the spot welds. The legs vary from being loose enough to just fall open or closed as I handle the stove, or being snug enough to hold in what ever position I move the leg to. The center hole has a group of eight smaller holes around it, and these are off center enough that several of the holes actually cut into the larger center hole. Fortunately, all these details are strictly cosmetic, although the loose legs can be annoying.

And we have ignition:

Naturally, the first thing I want to do with a new stove is set fire to it! So, setting the Vargo Triad Titanium Stove up in my laboratory (aka: kitchen), I set it up for the first burn. The first thing I noticed was that one of the lower legs swings out a bit farther than the other two, so the stove does not sit quite level, but the effect is minor. Next, I tried my various pots for fit.

The spacing of the three support tips proved to be too wide for some of my smaller pots, such as my Snow Peak 650 and my Snow Peak Trek 700. My Snow Peak three piece cook set, which has radiused corners, is just wide enough to sit properly, but requires careful positioning. This is the pot I used for my first burn, which I used to cook lunch. I also tried my MSR Titan Kettle, which is just wide enough to fit, and my Primus Alpine Kettle, which is an excellent match, being very wide and flat.


Fig. 2: The Triad ignited

 

Fig. 2: the Triad provides a wide, well disbursed flame. The Primus Alpine Kettle is shown in this photo.


I have done three burns as of this writing. I used approximately 1.13 oz (33.4 ml) of alcohol for each burn. The prime took about three minutes each time, even the last burn which was done while the stove was still warm. Each burn (from completed prime to exhaustion of the fuel) lasted about twenty five minutes. Boil times for 1.5 cups (.35 L) of water averaged about 6 minutes. These times were obtained by waiting for the stove to be in full burn after a completed priming period before placing the pot on the stove.

The Vargo Triad Titanium Stove is a snap to prime. The fuel is poured into the center depression, which allows the fuel to flow into the stove, filling it. When about 1 oz (30 ml) of fuel has been poured in, the fuel becomes visible at the bottom of the depression. This fuel becomes the primer. The stove seems to prefer at least 1.13 oz (33.4 ml) for priming. Lighting the stove is as simple as putting a match to the fuel visible in the center depression. After about three minutes, flame starts to sputter out of the outer ring of holes and then it ignites continuously at the outer ring. The stove burns with a gentle, well distributed flame.

Other considerations:

On my final test burn, I attempted to blow out the flame. This was easily accomplished with a good, strong puff. On the one hand, this is good from an efficiency standpoint, but it means a windscreen will be an important accessory in the field.

Next, I tried recovering the remaining fuel in the stove. The hang tag says that the fuel can be poured out of the stove, using a leg like a pour spout. I tried it and it does work, but it is a bit messy. In addition, the cotton wicking material inside the stove seems to retain a considerable amount of fuel.

The Vargo Triad Titanium Stove, being made of titanium, seems to be very ruggedly made. It appears as though it should be able to take a great deal of punishment. The size, when folded, is very compact and fits easily into the bottom of my titanium mugs, both single and double wall.

Summary:

Things I Like:
1 – Small and compact design.
2 – Light weight.
3 – Titanium construction.

Things I don't Like:
1- Lack of attention to detail and finish. There is nothing significant enough to effect the function of the stove, however.

The Vargo Triad Titanium Stove is a cleverly designed, very lightweight, compact little backpacking stove. The solid, rugged construction should contribute to a long life in the field. The fold-out design makes for a very stable base. All-in-all, a pretty neat little stove.

Test Plan:

The Vargo Triad Titanium Stove will be my primary stove for the next six months, so it will get a great deal of use in a wide variety of conditions, including winter camps in the Catskill and Adirondack Mountains. Particular attention will be focused on the stoves overall effectiveness, especially as the weather gets colder.




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