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Big Agnes Parkview Tent Long Term Report

Tester:   Dylan Anderson
Age:        24
Gender:  Male
Height:   5 ft 10 in (178 cm)
Weight:  175 lbs (79 kg)
Email:     DJAProperties@hotmail.com
Locale:   Phoenix, AZ U.S.A.
Date:      September 13th, 2005

Product Information:

Manufacturer:     Big Agnes, 2005
Web Site:              http://www.bigagnes.com
Seasons:                3
Capacity:                2 plus gear
Carried Weights: 4 lbs 6.3 oz (1.99 kg) and 5 lbs 15.1 oz (2.7 kg) - For more information on what carried weights mean, see below and my Field or Initial Reports for a detailed description of weights.

After 6 months, without further adieu

I could give a rundown of every trip.  I could list all the environments I encountered and such, but it seems to me to be a better review and use of time if I instead answer all the questions I have asked over the last six months starting with those of my initial report (for trip information see the trip rundown after the review summary).  I asked:

 "How will it do in various storms?"
The simple answer is just fine.  From the constant light downpour 3 days long mentioned in my Field Report, to a sudden, hard Monsoon downpour, in high winds and very hot sand blown wind, it performed as well or better than my expectations.  No water ever got in outside of one fabricated test here at my house, which admittedly surpassed anything short of a hurricane that nature can throw out.  Some finer sand was able to penetrate the mesh in a dust storm, but I have yet to find any fabric that can keep every particle out.  Unfortunately I never found any snow on my trips so I cannot comment to that event outside of speculating that light snow would be about the same as the rain performance.

"Can it easily and quickly be set up in the dark?"
Simply put, yes it can.  On my first trip when I was delayed till well after sunset it was the first one out of a group of 8 tents to be up.  All the others were name brands owned by friends who had owned them for several years with a lot of experience setting them up.  I cannot attribute the speed with which I was able to set up to anything but good design.

The poles all being connected seemed like they would be awkward to handle.  Is it?
To some extent this was true, but lessened with experience.  The fact that I did not have to determine which section went where, which was the long, short, curved or straight section aided in fast setups indeed.  Packing up was sometimes another story in that the poles have to be packed just so to keep the bundle at it's smallest.  Occasionally I still get that wrong on the first try but it doesn't take me much time to correct.

I noted the fly lies rather close to the body on two sides.  Will this be an issue?
After plenty of experience, this does not seem to be my inexperience.  It still lies close in those areas so it seems to be part of the design.  I have not found it to hinder ventilation and I have yet to have any condensation in the tent, so it cannot be termed bad design.  In fact, I think it aided a bit in keeping the heat in on the colder nights I encountered.

To aid versatility, the larger vestibule could have been made removable.  Will I find conditions in which this would be beneficial?
This is one area that could be improved.  Out in the desert as well as on the beach when using the tent as a sunshade removing this vestibule entirely would have aided in ventilation.  As it was, the tent functioned well enough, but it could have been better.  As to saving weight, I am now of the opinion that it would have amounted to a few ounces (50-60 g) at most, but still every ounce counts.

Both by the writings of Big Agnes in the brochures as well as ad placement, the intended purpose of the tent seems to be a single light weight solution for a variety of uses (car, boat, and backpack camping, hot and humid to cold and dry, storms or no).  To that end I asked:

"Will the old adage 'jack of all trades, master of none' prove itself true in this case. Can it hold up. [Will I find] myself wanting more?"
This is a tougher question.  Did it stand out in any one area?  Not particularly.  Did it handle everything Mother Nature and I threw at it?  Absolutely.  There are certain tents out there with similar dimensions that pack a bit smaller.  There are some competitor's tents that weigh less.  I have owned tents that had more headroom and bigger vestibules.  At no time in the test though did I find myself necessarily wanting these things.  I had no "if it packed just a bit smaller, if it were a bit lighter, if it were a bit bigger" moments in my experience.  It certainly is greater than the sum of its parts in my opinion.  From the kayak to my backpack to my car's trunk loaded with other luggage it fit just fine.

"Will it leave me something other than high and dry, and scrambling to get back to my old standbys post haste?"
There were only two times that water has made it into the tent out of two tests and 3 rain storms.  Once was mentioned above, when I got overzealous in a simulation, and the other when accidentally opening the door on the windward side.  This second occurrence (while an operator failure) illustrates the supreme benefit of two opposing doors and vestibules.  With a little more attention, that added flexibility was an asset and I do not believe I would buy another two-person tent without that option, regardless of weight savings.

By the time I had written my Field Report, I had already gotten a pretty good idea that I would give this tent a favorable review.  At that time it was exceeding my expectations on several levels.  However, I still had the following questions:

"Will it fit easily on the next river trip?"
Again this is a simple question.  The only river trip I went on, it fit easily into a dry bag with my sleeping bag stuffed in beside it.  The whole bundle then fit neatly into the kayak with no trouble at all.

"How will it hold up over prolonged use?"
I do not consider 6 months all that long since I keep all my good gear at least several years.  However, I have taken or sent this tent on every camping trip I can manage (7 in my possession and 3 trips I loaned it out on, though they do not account for any of the opinions or experiences here) which is more than I typically go on.  So far the tent shows no wear that I can detect.  It has no damage (aside from some slight mud staining) and performance has not been compromised in any way.

"What about the fast and light option. what will it be like?"
Basically it will be just as it sounds.  As fast as it is to set up the whole tent, without all the body's pole clips, the fast and light option takes about half as long to set up and take down.  At 4 lbs 6.3 oz (1.99 kg) for the footprint, fly, poles and two stakes, this is very competitive for a total area of approximately 57 sq ft (5.25 sq m).  While camping I actually had 4 people, albeit 2 adults and two children both under 5 feet, sleep under it in this configuration.  It did not rain on that trip so it is hard to say if everyone would have stayed completely dry, but based on my experience with tarp set up, I feel it would be doable with the same careful site selection like with a tarp.  Taken to a fourth of July celebration in this configuration, it proved a very convenient changing shelter.  It packed down small enough and light enough to be carried with the lawn chairs and cooler about half a mile from the parking lot, and set up and tore down fast enough to be unobtrusive, while providing enough room.  At the beach this configuration was an excellent sunshade, being low enough to not obstruct other bathers, while being big enough inside to accommodate two beach chairs.  The ventilation might have been improved as I mentioned above, though it was not objectionable considering this was not an intended use.

"Will it be warm or cool enough (depending on the situation)?"
As a full tent it proved plenty warm down to about 32° F (0° C).  In hotter environments it ventilated well and rarely got much more than a degree or two hotter than the surrounding air.  In the fast and light configuration I did not get a chance to test it below 60° F (15.6° C), but at that temperature it still stayed comfortable inside.  In the higher temperatures it performed much the same as before, with sufficient ventilation almost entirely eliminating any heat buildup.

In Summary

With virtually all of my questions answered at this point, what is my opinion?  This tent has very admirably met most, if not all of the needs of many campers.  While there may be some better options for any one particular use (smaller packing for boating, lighter weight for ultra lights, slightly simpler use for the novice), none of them with which I am familiar have the flexibility and adaptability of this tent.  With strong proven storm resistance in many storm types (though I did not get snow), durability in some very adverse conditions and my ground type (forest sod, soft grass, muddy plain, desert sand and shale rock, canyon granite and sandstone), and even some non-camping uses (sunshade, community event changing room), I have not had so much as one broken zipper.

At this point I can, and have recommended this tent to several looking for a lightweight but freestanding tent.  True it will never match the non-freestanding models for space to weight comparisons, but the fast and light option at least comes close.  Can I think of a situation in which I would not take this tent?  Any situation that immediately comes to mind is no place for a tent designated as 3 season, and even at that I would be comfortable taking this tent into all but hurricane force storms and I would still like to try it in snow.  If I could change or add anything about it, I think I would still make the large vestibule detachable for those trips and duties where it would not be necessary.  Anyone from Big Agnes that may be reading, please consider it.  After 6 months using the tent, this is the only fact that still bugs me.  Granted I can work around the ventilation issue by unzipping and rolling back both flaps of the vestibule, but why carry it when I know I won't use it?

Pros
-       Flexible design with good to great (fast and light) space to weight ratio
-       Compact packing allowing for many carry options and therefore uses
-       High quality materials showing no wear in 6 months
-       Freestanding design allowing setup in all but the most abysmal terrain
-       Great storage space with two vestibules and a total of almost 57 sq ft (5.3 sq m) under the fly
-       Dual doors and vestibules allowing both occupants their own space, or alternately always a down wind protected entry to prevent wind blown rain/snow

Cons
-       Vestibule that is so close to removable, I still cannot understand why it is not
-       Very slight compromise at the extremes (very high heat/cold)

In one sentence:  The best blend of features at a respectably light weight to make it through most of what Mother Nature as well as society may throw out that I have ever used.

The best overall indication of what a tester thinks about a tent would be whether he/she intends to continue using it or are they going back to their old tent.  To that I say I would continue to.  However, the one thing this tent cannot offer (no tent can) is the comfort of my hammock.  Had I not discovered hammocks, I would be thrilled to keep the Big Agnes Parkview as my primary shelter.  At least I can say that I do intend to keep it around as a backup for any future trip where the hammock cannot work for one reason or another.

Trips and Tests:

Overall environmental ranges: High temperature 100° F (37.8° C), Low temperature 40° F (4.4° C), winds measured up to 30 mph (48.3 km/h) with a few strong bursts, rains moderate over an extended period (2 in or 5.1 cm over three days) and the heaviest downpour being .9 in (2.3 cm) over 1 hour, no snow experience, ground cover consisting of

March 2005 - 1 day of testing and measuring at a neighborhood park 3 hours in duration.  Dry weather in direct sunlight with light breezes and a temperature of 81° F (27.2° C).  Ground cover was thick grass

April 2005 - 3 day (2 night) car camping trip into high mountain range with the tent serving as a base camp.  Rain almost continuous totaling 2 in (5.1 cm) in forested shade with occasional moderate wind gusts (not measured) with lowest recorded temperature of 40° F (4.4° C) and a high of 60° F (15.6° C).  Ground cover was a mix of mud and forest leave deadfall.

April 2005 - 1 day of additional testing and cleaning.  Simulated rain up to 3 in (7.6 cm) per hour though under high pressure (i.e. simulated wind driven), in direct sunlight with no wind and an estimated temperature in the high 70's F (mid 20's C).  Ground cover was driveway concrete.

May 2005 - 2 day (1 night) backpack into higher desert regions near Phoenix.  No rain, in direct sunlight with very light breezes, a low temperature of 70° F (21.1° C) and a high of 88° F (31.1° C).  Ground cover was hard packed dirt and bits of shale.

June 2005 - 3 day (2 night) river trip on the Gila River in the deserts of eastern AZ.  No rain, partial shade winds of up to 30 mph (48.3 km/h) one day, lowest temperature believed to be 80° F (26.7° C) and a high of 100° F (37.8° C).  Ground cover was river beach sand and gravel.

July 2005 - 2 day (1 night) backpack into Beaver Creek Canyon of central AZ.  One downpour of .9 in (2.3 cm) in an hour, partial shade, winds unmeasured but gusting strong, with an unknown low and an estimated high of 95° F (35° C).  Ground cover was sandstone.

August 2005 - 5 days on California beaches.  Though not truly a camping trip, the tent served several days as a sunshade and changing shelter for up to 6 hours at a time on various beaches and had to be packed with considerable luggage quantities in a smaller (Saturn) car trunk.  Temperatures throughout the 70's F (20's C), direct sunlight, gusty winds, set up on the beach sand.

August 2005 - 3 day (2 night) backpack into high alpine regions of eastern AZ.  Some light rain, forest shade, consistent moderate wind, low of 45° F (7.2° C) and a high of 74° F (23.3° C).  Ground cover was compacted forest dirt with some rock.  This time it was carried in its fast and light setup.

September 2005 - 4 day (3 night) backpack into Havasupai canyon, a tributary to the Grand Canyon.  No rain, almost constant shade, occasional breezes, with lows in the low 70's F (low 20's C) and a high of 81° F (27.2° C).  Ground cover was compacted dirt.  Again carried in fast and light configuration.

Also, the tent served as a changing shelter at a 4th of July event with admirable results (fast and light setup, easy and quick to carry and use).  It was also loaned out three times.  Two backpack trips and one additional river trip.  One trip encountered heavy thunderstorm activity.  All three users had no complaints and many praises.  While none of these experiences are used for the purposes of these reviews due to the fact that they are second hand knowledge to me, I mention them here to give the reader a complete picture of the use this tent has so far endured for the purposes of durability assessment.

Tester's Background:

I started hiking at 5, and in 19 years I've traveled everywhere.  From Alaska's glaciers to Hawaii's Kalalau, Grand Canyon lows to the heights of Colorado and Washington I've challenged everything.  My home, Phoenix's desert, is a perfect base from which to rock climb, raft and kayak, ski, bike and sail.  Every climate is within 8 hours drive.  The ocean, mountains, canyons, forest or field, it's all near by.  Either as a Scout troop leader or on my travels, I'm backpacking at least once a month, about 6 weeks a year.  I'm the gear info guy for those I know, as my collection is huge.  I plan to increase my travels further, and anticipate learning more doing as many reviews as I am allowed!



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